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Conservancy Concerned For Riverside Park's Future

Calls from mayor’s former transition chairman, language on special meeting agenda make group members uncertain whether they will see a renewed political battle

Members of the have vowed to keep up their efforts to retain as municipal property after a financial crunch and calls from the former transition chairman for Mayor Daryl Finizio renewed fears that the property could be sold to the .

Finizio called a special City Council meeting on Friday “to discuss the potential purchase and sale of real estate by the city of New London.” The meeting was cancelled due to concerns over whether it would violate the Freedom of Information Act, but Finizio met individually with councilors before announcing that New London faces a .

Finizio said the methods to address the budget crunch could include selling city assets, but referred to his past position on Riverside Park when asked if the property was under consideration. During his campaign, Finizio was opposed to the proposed sale of about half of the 18-acre park to the Coast Guard Academy for $2.9 million.

The question went before voters at the November ballot, and was defeated in a close vote after a .

Calls from de Vars

Ronna Stuller and Kathleen Mitchell, members of the Friends of Riverside Conservancy, each said they received a phone call before the meeting from Allyn de Vars, who prior to Finizio taking office. de Vars is no longer employed by Finizio, but said the mayor sometimes consults with him on issues.

“I’m still not really sure whether he was acting on behalf of the mayor, if he knew me and wanted to put out feelers about the option of using Riverside Park as a means to resolve the budget crisis,” said Stuller. “I think he did want to assure me that the budget crisis is real, and I’m not one of the people that doubts this.”

Stuller said their discussion included talk about the budget situation, and that she concluded from the conversation that the sale of Riverside Park is under consideration since the academy is a known potential buyer.

“He definitely presented it as a possible option, and I think in part he was seeking other opinions and other options,” said Stuller. "But the idea of selling the park for obviously a lot more than $2.9 million was one of the things that was being considered.”

Mitchell said de Vars discussed the budget situation with her, and she told him she had heard one offer from the academy would give $5 million to the city as well as the promise that the national Coast Guard museum would be located in New London. She said de Vars responded, “Try $15 million.”

“He made no bones about it when he called me that he was calling for the mayor,” said Mitchell.

Response from de Vars

de Vars said he has known Finizio, Mitchell, and Stuller since about 2005. He said the calls were personal rather than on behalf of the mayor, and that he made them to assuage concerns regarding Riverside Park. de Vars said he had also noticed that Mitchell had started posting about the park in online forums following the announcement of its meeting.

“It’s just the way she operates she goes out she beats on the drum really hard and my intentions there were just saying, ‘Hey, wait until the whole picture comes out,’” he said.

de Vars said the discussion of a sales price was more theoretical, and that Mitchell said the conservancy considers that the park is not for sale at any price. He said Finizio has said publicly and privately that his position on the park has not changed, and recalled that Finizio had stated prior to taking office that he considered the initial tally supporting the sale moot because the .

“We fought like hell to support the park during his campaign and it’s not his desire to put that park up for sale,” said de Vars.

Wednesday meeting

“I think that the mayor probably meant during his campaign that he didn’t want to sell Riverside Park, but he may not have realized the reality of the situation,” said Mitchell.

Mitchell said she thinks Finizio is under pressure from the academy and other officials to make the sale, and is considering whether to ask a City Council subcommittee to investigate the academy’s connection with municipal affairs. She said she also believes the academy has enough room to meet its expansion needs on campus and that the conservancy remains committed to retaining the park.

“We will go to any lengths to save that park,” said Mitchell.

Stuller said the conservancy was organized as an open space group to maintain and renovate the park, but would renew its political efforts if a sale is announced. She said the conservancy may have a statement on the matter after its regular meeting on Wednesday.

“My view was what it’s always been: that the park can’t be on the table,” said Stuller. “I don’t think it will solve the budget issue even in the short run. It would be a huge breach of trust to the mayor’s supporters.”

Note: a blog from Kathleen Mitchell regarding Riverside Park will post at 10:30 a.m. this morning.

Dirk Langeveld (Editor) January 31, 2012 at 04:30 pm
Since someone more than likely shares your name, Patch allows people to take a user name that's the same as someone else. This basically means that if someone shares your name on a Patch site in California, you won't be barred from using it on this site. It has the potential for abuse, as happened here with the person imitating James Dixon. This is incredibly immature, and this account has been suspended.
Now please humor me and act like the intelligent adults I'm pretty sure you all are. That means no name-calling, no dirty tricks, and a reasonable discussion about the issues. I shouldn't have to keep saying this. Thank you.
James Dixon January 31, 2012 at 04:32 pm
Thank you very much, Dirk. You do excellent work on here. I will respond to this article tonight after I finish work.
Sara Florek January 31, 2012 at 04:49 pm
Tricky stuff! Thanks!
Matt Covey January 31, 2012 at 06:06 pm
It's either extremely naive or very disingenuous to state that no other options have been considered, that this has been already been decided upon, or that a campaign promise has been broken. When the Mayor tells us we have a big problem and these are all the things that I have to consider to solve it, that is transparency. Just because some ppl have decided that there must be other stuff going on behind the scenes A) does not mean there is B) requires no less proof than any other claim in order to ne validated.
Please, let's focus on sharin g information and moving forward in am effort to solve this problem rather than creating more out of thin air
Ronna Stuller January 31, 2012 at 06:25 pm
Thanks, Lorraine. It does seem to be part and parcel to living in New London that nothing is ever seen as simple and straightforward. All part of the fun of living here, I guess...
Lori Hopkins Cavanagh January 31, 2012 at 06:31 pm
Gosh Matt: It took the mayor months to even start a dialogue with the Coast Guard. The only other published plan was mine and I shopwed it to the Coast Guard two months before the election. This is sharing information, you just do not want to face the truth about this mayor and all of the problems he has created. He has mishandled everything that we know about. I can only imagine how much we do not know. Done discussing on Patch. Time to take definitive action.
Ronna Stuller January 31, 2012 at 06:36 pm
Yes, the Coast Guard Academy is a military base with important security needs. That is why I believe that, if they are short of land within their footprint, they should consider moving some of their functions that are open to the community. The football field is a prime example; moving it off campus (to a site in Waterford, perhaps?) would enhance the on-campus security; crowds of people passing through the gates for games has got to present some challenges.
Matt Covey January 31, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Hahahahaha why in the world do you think he's gonna tell us about every option that has been considered until he's ready to discuss specifics??? So far all he has done is made sure ppl knew that he was going to have to consider selling Riverside in the interest of transparency. That's as far as we've gone. You can bet they're weighing every possibility to help get us out of this potential nightmare...but he ain't just gonna tell us about every idea being spitballed at city hall. This is an developing situation, lots of elements to be considered. Wouldn't you want responsible government to make sure they've been over everything before they start discussing details with the public? Good god.
Alphonse DeLachance January 31, 2012 at 10:53 pm
You need a thicker skin.
Alphonse DeLachance January 31, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Sara that you should do just fine remark could have meant anything. You are a bit paranoid. I took it to mean if he was not so quick with his tongue or submit button he would not be so harshly revied in these pages.
Sara Florek February 1, 2012 at 01:26 am
I am sorry Alphonse, that's not my interpretation, nor was it the interpretation of others that I had spoken to about the incident. It seemed a bit threatening, particularly when there were other incidents on other articles that did prelude this identity theft. I don't view James as being harsh, but more so informed and factual. Either way you view it, it was sketchy. I sure wouldn't like anyone taking my identity on patch, and then posting things under my name. Would you?
James Dixon February 1, 2012 at 01:48 am
I applaud Allyn de Vars for contacting Ronna Stuller and Kathleen Mitchell regarding Riverside Park. If the CGA has indeed proposed purchasing the park for more than 6 times the price, it makes good common sense to contact the most fervent supporters of keeping the park to see if the new circumstances have an impact on their positions. A new $15,000,000 proposed sale does seem like a slam dunk solution to a newly discovered $12,000,000 deficit. It also makes the previous government look incompetent for the price they settled on and the deficit they created. I still feel that the crust-leaving land division of the original proposal was an insult to New London. My general stance on the issue is that there is no reason why the CGA needs as much land as they proposed to buy for such a dirt cheap price. I do, however, understand why the CGA would so greatly value expanding adjacent to their campus. If a proposal were to be made for a significantly smaller portion (say, 1/8th to 1/4 of the previous proposal), and there was a master plan that convinced me they had seriously considered how much land they NEEDED for a specific purpose or structure, I could begin to see the potential for a compromise. If a comparable sized piece of land in the vicinity of the community adjacent to Riverside Park were purchased to replace the lost park space as part of the deal, I think we could be looking at a solution that meets the needs of both the community next to Riverside and the CGA.
John Lynch February 1, 2012 at 07:04 pm
Move the football field. Yea that frees up about 100 yards, that has got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. How about moving the basketball courts with the new nets and sell the park.
Ken February 1, 2012 at 07:48 pm
Dumbest things? Let's see. Yards are a linear measure, area is two-dimensional. And, are you intending to move only the playing field but leave the rest of the stadium behind?
Moving the stadium sounds like a reasonable thing to me. Speaking with Conn College about hosting the child care center on their campus rather than keeping it on the CGA grounds sounds reasonable, too. Nixing Robert Crown Park on the CGA grounds also sounds like a good idea. Investigating the feasibility of putting an additional deck on top of Roland Hall sounds pretty rational. Tell me John, how much space would those four changes free up on the Academy grounds? It seems to me that none of those things would disrupt or inconvenience cadet life on campus. And, it would make more efficient use of their campus.
Ronna Stuller February 1, 2012 at 08:51 pm
Well, you did get me to look it up, and what I learned was: A football field (including the end zones) is 360 feet long and 160 feet wide for a total of 57,600 square feet. That's about 1 1/3 acres. The bleachers probably cover about 1/2 acre more.
Although the Academy hoped to purchase 9 acres of Riverside Park, the footprint of the planned buildings wasn't much more than an acre or two. The rest of the property was to become a buffer zone for security reasons, necessary because of the expansion of the Coast Guard into new territory. That wouldn't be needed on the current football field site, since it is already a secure location. Many people (especially if they do not live in New London) seem to have the idea that New Londoners are selfish because we don't want to "share" our land with the CGA. But the current 110 acre campus was largely a gift from the city to the Coast Guard (in 1961); more land was willingly sold for expansion in the 1960s and some was taken from our city by eminent domain. We have been more than generous with our land in the past, and we just can't afford to lose any more.
Ronna Stuller February 1, 2012 at 08:56 pm
Sorry, make that 1931 when New London made its first gift of land to the Coast Guard.
Amy Sarcia February 1, 2012 at 09:58 pm
As someone who actually grew up going to Riverside park, I fully believe that HALF of the park should be sold to the CGA. So many people who never cared about this park before the talk of selling have come out of the woodwork to "protect their park". I could go on about that subject alone but I won't because what's important here and that the CGA gives a lot to this city and we should be willing to work with them to come up with a solution that will work for the the people of NL and the CGA. New London needs the money and needs to respect the relationship with the CGA. Instead of putting up hearts all over town that are really just a slap in the face (sorry) the tax payers, business owners and community organizations should be working with the Mayor to come up with a solution, not throwing mud at each other in the common "politics as usual" way that NL has unfortunately become famous for! Selling off a piece of the park in order to pay its debts is the responsible thing for NL to do.
Kathleen Mitchell February 1, 2012 at 10:03 pm
Amy Sarcia, It's just as well that you decided not to go on since with statements like "So many people who never cared about this park before the talk of selling have come out of the woodwork to "protect their park". you clearly are unaware of the truth.
A simple Google search or one on The Day will show you the error of that statement alone.
Ken February 1, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Amy,
Contrary to your conclusion, selling off yet another piece of the park would be highly irresponsible. Those debts you wish to retire through the sale will crop up again and again. Yet, that land will be gone forever. BTW, NL already sold HALF of the park to the CGA years ago (and the land is never coming back to NL. Where is the money from that sale now?). Yes, by all means the city and the CGA should sit down together and discuss ways for their mutual needs to be met. In those discussions the mayor should firmly state to the CG that Riverside is not for sale. However, if the CGA would like assistance from NL in how else it can deal with its space needs he will offer all the help he can.
Amy Sarcia February 1, 2012 at 10:19 pm
C'mon Kathleen, I didn't say everyone, I said so many people. Even you have to admit that a lot of people jumped on the bandwagon who never stepped foot in that park prior to talk of selling it.
Thomas Cornick February 2, 2012 at 01:43 am
The Academy has already taken half the park in previous land grabs, where then does it end?
Cathi Strother February 2, 2012 at 05:25 pm
Well Amy I wonder if I had grown up next to Ocean Beach would that give me the right to say - Sell Ocean Beach. Do you still live by the park or utilize it like the families who live in this area do. I belong to the Northeast New London Neighborhood Watch group and we formed this group several years ago before this whole idea of selling the park. Our intention was to make our neighborhood including Riverside Park a cleaner one and to watch out for one another. Thats what we are doing. Selling 1/2 the park is not what the people of New London voted for. So if you want to sell off pieces of New London - why dont we start with areas that can fetch more money and help us in the long run. I'd mention Ocean Beach but why would we sell an asset like Ocean Beach - is it because of where its located. Maybe not - but why sell off a park that the people of New London voted to keep. Why dont you call the admiral and ask her why they dont use the 8 arces that the day care center sits on?
Matt Covey February 2, 2012 at 05:52 pm
Yes...working together...that should be the message. We all have different viewpoints, just like the Mayor, City Council, Conn College, Riverside Conservancy, and the CGA have different viewpoints. This has to be about working together first amd foremost. We'll never get anything done otherwise. I'm already intrigued by all this info regarding the potential available space on the current CGA campus. Anyone here know what the CGA's arguments against those ideas are?
Ken February 2, 2012 at 06:01 pm
Yes, they ignore them.
Daniel Burnett February 3, 2012 at 03:47 pm
I wonder how different the vote would be if the sale price was $15 million instead of the insulting number the previous council came to terms with?
My views on the park are still kind of up in the air. It feels like I understand and support both decisions... It's actually kind of frustrating for me. However, at the time of the vote, I voted to Save the Park, not because I was actually confident that's what I wanted, but more so because of the insulting sales price. So again... I wonder how different the vote would have been if it was set at close to $15 million.
Jason Morris February 6, 2012 at 03:21 pm
Well put Michael.
Jason Morris February 6, 2012 at 03:29 pm
your sadness doesn't seem to keep you from spreading the negativity. sounding the alarms and tooting your own horn so quickly after the first strong mayor in about 90 years has taken office only shows you are: not in touch with the majority, haven't come to terms with your loss, and can't seem to use the respected methods of the true local supporters that don't include such slander.
Jason Morris February 6, 2012 at 03:40 pm
yes there are. i'm not necessarily one of them, but i support the office, and some of the decisions he's made. it's ridiculous to expect the first strong mayor in around 90 years to take every step perfectly. americans have become so hyper-critical due to our "modern politics". we have to stand up out of our lay-z-boys and let our local government know how we feel about issues - with respect and even a little class (sending your kid out of a restaurant so he/she wouldn't see you bash the mayor and his partner in public would be a bad example of class). complaining doesn't do anything, action does. Facts, data, and unbiased truth are more important than opinion.
Jason Morris February 6, 2012 at 03:43 pm
you handled it well James, it's a shame that happened.
Jason Morris February 6, 2012 at 03:55 pm
i like all of the ideas in this thread. i'm not familiar with drafting proposals like this but they all sound reasonable to consider...especially the football field, though. i don't work at the academy...but it does seem to be rarely used.

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